WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and reproductive harm. The trigger itself operates the action entirely like that of the rifle and Dragoon, but what would usually be a trigger spur for the index finger is instead a serrated cylinder 14 mm long by 12 mm in diameter. However this did not go through. David Berden, David L Berden, David Lee Berdan, David L Berdan. [serial number] [Imperial eagle] (Birmingham Arms Factory. No. [serial number] (year on the right knoxform flat), or Sestroryetsk [year]. An interesting note: Ammunition for the infantry rifle was loaded to full power while cartridges for the carbine and short rifles were loaded with reduced loads. Note however that unlike the lower sling swivel, the upper sling swivels screw hole is formed only by bending its tang into a loop through which the band screw passes. call us (208) 263-6953 The Berdan II Cossack Rifle is at once one of the most recognizable rifles of the era, due entirely to its total lack of a trigger guard combined with its unique stubby barrel shaped trigger. In addition to having a distinctive socket, the Dragoon bayonet was also slightly shorter than the infantry bayonet at 1733 mm (68.25 inches) long overall. (146) 10.66mm x 58mm Russian Berdan (147) 11mm Mauser (148) 11mm Austrian Werndl (149) 11mm Fruhwirth Carbine (150) 11mm Spanish Remington (151) .43" Spanish Carbine (152 . 2.79 4.16 /5. (A Research, Photo-Identification and Information Website since 1997). Since I have more of examples of these items I plan on releasing more short, informative, videos on the History of Cartridges. 42 Russian Berdan (A.K.A. It also utilizes transverse stock slots to mount its sling, although the placement of the upper sling slot differs from that of the Dragoon. i No. All 4 primary models of Berdans & Bayonets: Infantry rifle, Dragoon Rifle, Cossack Rifle and Berdan Carbine. Climate change is one of the most pressing issues of our time, and its effects can be seen all around us. Rifling: 6-groove; RH, concentric, 1.5 turns along the entire length of the barrel. Sight: Ramp-and-leaf, graduated 200 to 1,000 arshin (142 to 711 m; 156 to 778 yds.). There are French records of France having acquired perhaps 5,700 such rifles directly from Colt, but we can find no records of such transactions with the Swiss. This resulted inLt. GeneralBaron Ungern(a White Russian) leading his troops into Mongolia in October 1920, and in February 1921, with Mongol support, defeating the Chinese forces inNiislel Khree(now Ulaanbaatar). Could also use some load suggestions if anyone has any. Photo Credit: Generous anonymous photo donor please identify yourself! So I've been fortunate enough lately to acquire an 1881 Tula infantry rifle variation. The tip of the blade is cut in the form of a screwdriver. All Russian Berdan II rifles carry Cyrillic markings on the top of the barrel between the lower band and the receiver. It is these rifles, eventually sold to Interarmco, which made their way to American collectors during the late 1950s, that form most of the limited numbers of Berdan rifles in good condition seen in American collections today. and with a thin, lightweight stock, this diminutive arm is not much heavier than full-sized horse revolvers of the period. [serial number] Imperial Eagle]), Tula No. The Berdan II is chambered for the same cartridge as the M1868 Russian Berdan I, a relatively advanced, bottle-necked 10.67 mm Berdan-primed, drawn brass cartridge with paper-patched bullet, which, in nearly identical dimensions and performance, would see its greatest application in the Remington .43 Spanish chambering. M1868 10.75x58R ( 4,2- . It appears that the Finns retained the Berdan rifles in store until scrapping them starting in 1945. Anyone here have experience with the Berdan and any suggestions to give as far as acquiring brass? The last verified military issue of the Berdan II was in Finland, 1940, to reserve units. The leaf is graduated 6 through 14 in Russin arshin (paces), equivalent to about 427 to 996 meters (467 to1089 yards). 30,000 Berdan II rifles were delivered to the Kingdom of Montenegro in 1895, together with 30 million rounds of ammunition for them. Some are to be read with the rifle pointing to the right, others with the rifle pointing to the left. The blade of the infantry bayonet is straight, tetrahedral with fullers (the Berdan I is triangular). (The lower band is fixed with a conventional band spring.). At an overall length of only 38.5 inches (978 mm) and with a thin, lightweight stock, this diminutive arm is not much heavier than full-sized horse revolvers of the period. Learn more about our approach to sharing our collection online. Using Natural Predators The Russian War Ministry soon placed an order for several thousand of these trapdoor rifles that would later be known as the Berdan I. No. Our collection database is a work in progress. After 1871 it was used in the Berdan II rifle. Note: Comment submission is temporarily unavailable while we make improvements to the site. The bolt handle serves as the only locking lug for the action, and when closed, points upwards at a 30-degree angle, rather than horizontally. Colt manufactured more than 30,000 Berdan Military Model Rifles with Cyrillic . The just adopted, The M1870 Russian Berdan II was the immediate follow-on to the new-built (not a conversion) Berdan I design, which was initially developed by Hirum Berdan but fine-tuned in conjunction with the Russian designer, inspector and envoy Colonel Alexander P. Gorlov. The muzzle end is cut flat, with sharp, perpendicular edges, and not appreciably rounded either around the outside of the barrel, nor at the rifling. For an excellent exposition on the Berdan II in Russian, including no fewer than 40 reference sources of Russian materials on the Russian Berdans I & II, please see: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/, Page built February 7, 1999 Factory cartouches are stamped into the right side of the buttstock. Revised September 26, 1999 [serial number] [Imperial eagle]), or one of the three Imperial Russian Arsenals, i.e., Tula No. ), the Berdan II carbine is, by any measure, a tiny longarm. 10.66X57R .42 Russian Berdan #2 for auction. Arsenal markings indicate the armory producing the rifle, whether the initial BSA contract which would be marked: , No. Building on Berdans development of his new and highly practical system for priming a drawn brass cartridge case, the group evolved a unitary (self-contained) bottlenecked cartridge that was widely fielded for military use, all in a caliber that was the most efficient (in terms of range, power and accuracy for its energy) until Mauser fielded the, Russian production was agonizing slow to ramp up but the Russo-Turkish War of, Despite the vast numbers of rifles manufactured, it appears either that few have survived, or large numbers remain deep in store in Russia, as comparatively few have ever made it to Western collectors hands, although a few somewhat well-used examples have made their way west from Afghanistan as a result of loses by Russia during their various involvements in Afghanistan during the, The Berdan II rifles began to enter Bulgarian military service at the initial organization of the regular Bulgarian army in the summer of 1878, although most arms transferred to Bulgaria at this time consisted of, In 1915 the Austro-Hungarians captured a number of Russian Berdan II rifles. Sight: Ramp-and-leaf, graduated from 200-1,500 arshin; (142-1,069 m, 156-1,165 yards). In that regard it is similar to theM1871 German Mauser and the Mle1874 French Graswhich was derived from the M1866 French Chassepot, both of which the Berdan preceded, borrowing from yet earlier rifles such as the German Dryese from two decades previous. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. Gardening is a great way to spend time outdoors and get in touch with nature. It has the bolt retention screw and dedicated retention slot in the bolt body of the Dragoon and Cossack rifles and it is fitted with the Dragoons two spring-retained barrel bands and a nosecap. [year]. ), aka: .42 Russian Berdan, 10.6x58R, 10.67 X 57R, The M1870 Berdan II rifle shares the same excellent cartridge as was developed by the American Colonel Hiram Berdan together with Russians Colonel Alexander Gorlov and Captain K.I. FFL is not required Ask Seller a Question . 10.66x58R or 10.75x58R) reformed brass cases. [serial number], [year]. It is built with the same receiver and screw-retained bolt, a barrel almost identical to the Dragoon version, and identical sights. Add to Wish List Add to Compare. Constitution Avenue, NW Buffalo Arms is the place to check for ready-formed cases. I have a suspicion 348 Winchester brass might work or 43 Spanish. In 1892 the excellent MosinNagant, a 3-Line rifle (7.62mm) firing a high velocity smokeless round was adopted by Russia. [3][4], "Finally I thought of something: I offered to him to exchange his old gun for a new one. The rifle was built as light as possible and still be a rifle and not a carbine. The rifles were later manufactured in large numbers by Russian factories at Tula, Izhevsk, and Sestroretsk. 1870g. Note also that the upper barrel band is fixed with a unique double-locking retainer spring. Not especially surprisingly given how unique the Cossack Berdan II variant is, even the Cossack forestock nosecap differs from the other three versions of Russian Berdan II in that it completely surrounds the cleaning rod and is pinned to the forestock wood rather than screwed. These parts would interchange with any of the larger variants. , 1898. .66, . It was widely used in Russia as a hunting weapon, and sporting variants, including shotguns, were produced until the mid-1930s. Berdan II rifles were still in Ethiopian service at the start of the Italian invasion of Ethiopia in October 1935. Between 12th and 14th Streets Total production (all versions) approximately: 3,000,00 Russian Berdan II infantry rifles were manufactured by Birmingham, Tula, Izhevsk, and Sestroryetsk. // -, 12 (141), 2008, .36-41, . . , . . . Its dimensions are identical to that of the infantry rifle, however it was loaded with a reduced powder charge in order to reduce recoil and improve controllability when employed from horseback. Berdan II M1870 Dragoon RifleDragunskaya Vintovka Berdana Obr. Cases can be easily fireformed from 43 Spanish cases, (not the Reformado!) Site powered by. After being arsenal reconditioned such rifles were marked AZK (K. und k.Artilleriezeugsfabrik, which is K & K Artillery factory, Imperial Vienna Arsenal) or OEWG (sterreichische Waffenfabriksgesellschaft) and employed by the Austro-Hungarians with captured cartridges. To operate, the bolt is rotated to the vertical and drawn back extracting and ejecting the spent case. The system consists of rectangular slots cut transversely through the forestock and buttstock, reinforced by elliptical iron or steel escutcheons retained by a pair of small wood screws each. I know it's a shot in the dark, but I was wondering if anyone has shot this cartridge or fire formed cases for it and what your process was? It consists of a roundel, in the center of which is the Imperial Czarist eagle in a circle, surrounded by the year of manufacture, and three Cyrillic letters, the exact meaning of which we are currently unaware. Washington, D.C. Email powered by MailChimp (Privacy Policy & Terms of Use), African American History Curatorial Collective, Political and Military History: Armed Forces History, Military. Photo Credit: https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/berdan001.htm (accessed 12/23/2022). Gunius for the immediate predecessor. We may update this record based on further research and review. In addition to the regular cartridge for rifles, a special cartridge was manufactured for use in the cavalry carbine. At the outbreak of First World War hostilities Bulgaria had 54,912 Berdan II rifles in service. If you would like to know how you can use content on this page, see the Smithsonian's Terms of Use. Please Weight reduction was achieved by shortening the barrel of a dragoon rifle by inch (12.5 mm ) and the absence of some metal parts (e.g., trigger guard and lower tang). The end of the cylinder is milled with a screwdriver slot, but beware, the cylinder unscrews clockwise, and not counter-clockwise as a Western nut or cap might. Building on Berdans development of his new and highly practical system for priming a drawn brass cartridge case, the group evolved a unitary (self-contained) bottlenecked cartridge that was widely fielded for military use, all in a caliber that was the most efficient (in terms of range, power and accuracy for its energy) until Mauser fielded the 9.5mm Turkish Mauser of 1887. Address: 2900 East Desert Inn Rd., Las Vegas, NV 89121. The Berdan II rifles began to enter Bulgarian military service at the initial organization of the regular Bulgarian army in the summer of 1878, although most arms transferred to Bulgaria at this time consisted ofM1869 Russian Krnkas. Dates from the 1890's, black powder metallic cartridges with a paper patched, wax covered lead projectile. They are a goto for this type of ammo. The 10.758mmR cartridge used in the Berdan was also invented by Hiram Berdan, with the assistance of Russian colonel Alexander Gorlov[ru]. This initial order was for 30,000 infantry rifles only, to supply the Russians while the state arsenals received modern manufacturing equipment and set up production. It is locked by the bolt-guide rib abutting the receiver bridge as the bolt handle is turned down. Pre-1877 rifle manufacture appears to have been in the tens of thousands, but Russian sources indicate that in 1877 production had increased to 345,000 Berdan II rifles (and variants), 475,000 were able to be produced and issued in 1878, and an additional 348,800 Berdans were produced and distributed for issue in 1879. In the 1930s, , In 18__ Russian Berdan II rifles began receiving modifications to their sights by the addition of long range volley sights attributed to __________. 42 Russian Berdan Cartridge 1891 Russian Headstamp - 8499778 Buyer Tip: Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item. It is a hammerless "trapdoor" breechblock design, and was manufactured in limited numbers (the contract stipulated 30,000) as a full-length infantry rifle. In the 1930s, Brodanks remained in service with foresters. Rear sight, showing the long range volley notch on the slide that corresponds with the volley sighting pin on the right side of the forward barrel band. try using the 10.75 X 58R nomenclature. The new rifle is a conventional bolt action pattern. Later carbines are reported to have been fitted with different barrel band retention springs but we have not been able to confirm this. Safonov was a combat experienced Cossack having participated in a number of military campaigns in the Caucasus and he lent his experience to the design of the Cossack rifle. Here is a discussion on the caliber and getting loads from a forum in 2016. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?653306-42-Berdan-dies Look up the 10,66x58R as people are using these in the Berdan. Learn more about our approach to sharing our collection online. Item Number. One distinguishing feature that is distinct from virtually all other rifles of the period is that the barrel muzzle is completely devoid of any crowning. The rear sight of the M1871 Berdan II Dragoon short rifle is a scaled down version of the M1870 Berdan II infantry sight positioned as with the infantry rifle. Arms races are not an invention of the 20th century, and the mid 19th century saw one of the great ones. Melting lead and casting lead objects will expose you and others in the area to lead, which has been found in the state of California to cause birth defects, other reproductive harm, and cancer. Made by Tula, Russia, 1875-1892 & by Ishevsk, Russia, 1878-1892. The Berdan II saw service, though by then very limited, in Finland as late as World War II. The Cossack people consisted of several relatively autonomous groups who contributed soldiers to the Tsar. These factors are similar to those you might use to determine which business to . 1238mm overall, 3.58kg, 720mm barrel, 6-groove rifling, RH . Previous Lot Next Lot. Lot # : 578 - 10.66X57R .42 Russian Berdan #2 . (Kazach'ya vintovka Berdana II obr.1873 g.). The caliber of this cartridge is 4.2 Russian lines (more precisely 4.23 lines), which corresponds to 10.67 (or, more exactly 10.75) mm, or .423 caliber. Until December 1925, rural units were armed with Berdan rifles. This is not the case for the short rifles and the carbine (see below). Weight reduction was achieved by shortening the barrel of a dragoon rifle by inch (12.5 mm ) and the absence of some metal parts (e.g., trigger guard and lower tang). Type: 10.92x56.9Rmm-3M. One of the most effective ways to protect your garden from pests is to use natural predators. The carbine could conceivably mount a bayonet, locking on the front sight, but it is not known to have been issued with bayonet, which in any case would have had to have been especially long to have been the least bit effective. Advanced . Two different versions of the later single-shot Berdan rifle were adopted as service weapons by Imperial Russia. (Karabin Berdana II obr.1873). The rifle is mounted in a single piece stock utilizing two screw-retained barrel bands and a very simple, Remington-like nosecap. Along with other Dragoon features, the carbine is fitted with the Dragoons sling retention system of transverse, escutcheon-reinforced rectangular slots. // , 4, 2014. .1-3, 56-62, "Unidades y armas durante el sitio de Buenos Aires de 1880", https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/berdan001-0001.htm, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Berdan_rifle&oldid=1138056041. The loop forming the screw hole is not solid and sufficient pressure on the sling will allow the tang to straighten, releasing the swivel from the band. Have adequate ventilation at all times. In 1945, Finland began disposing its Berdan II rifles, and in 1955 the last 1,029 of them were sold. As a result of its successful independence, it became heir to the Berdan arms within its borders. But as early as the summer of 1868, Berdan had traveled to England and was already working on improving his third type action, which by this time had seen improvement via the work of Gorlov and his assistant, Gunius, substituting a sliding breech (which would become what today is referred to as a turning bolt, or simply bolt action) in place of the locking bolt that was his then current lifting block design. If you require a personal response, please use ourContact page. Chambered for the relatively high velocity, small bore, Russian .42 caliber, bottle-necked, center fire cartridge, the Colt/Berdan Rifle was innovative firearm design. The first step is to understand the causes of climate change and how we can reduce our impact on the environment. Either the top of the receiver or the top of the barrel immediately ahead of the receiver is stamped with inspectors initials and the Russian Imperial Czarist eagle with cypher, indicating Russian service acceptance. Thank you. The later addition of volley sights to the infantry rifles included a front sight post affixed to the right side of the center barrel band and an extended, notched slider on a new rear sight leaf that has additional "long range" markings on the back side of the ladder taking the rangeing up to an astonishing 2200 arshin (1565 meters or 1712 yards). 42 Russian Berdan . Turning-bolt action, locked by the bolt-handle rib abutting the receiver bridge. Ethiopian-Russian Berdan II, almost certainly from the 30,000 delivered in 1895. They may have been sold to France the next year while France was desperate for any and all arms with which to fight off the Prussians. 660 Vermeer CourtPonderay, ID 83852United States. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. The bolt is then turned to the right to lock. 1871g), Manufactured at the Russian Imperial Arsenals at Tula, ( II .1873 .) The Berdan II is chambered for the same cartridge as the M1868 Russian Berdan I, a relatively advanced, bottle-necked 10.67 mm Berdan-primed, drawn brass cartridge with paper-patched bullet, which, in nearly identical dimensions and performance, would see its greatest application in the Remington .43 Spanish chambering. 26 Visits. [serial number]i i . Following independence, Finland found itself with more than 200,000 Berdan II infantry and dragoon rifles which remained in service with the rear echelon units of the Finnish army until transferred to storage in the mid-1920s. Burning fossil fuels for energy rel, Start Gardening This Summer and Reap the Rewards | Successful Harvesting for Beginners, Gardening is a rewarding experience that brings with it many benefits, from improved physical and mental health to the joy of harvesting fresh produce. Markings on the Berdan rifle usually consist of the Imperial Russian double-headed eagle cypher on the top receiver flat. 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