Which is practically the exact same argument atheists make when confronted with the fact that atheist states can be nasty. Alpha & Omega 115 Trucker Hat. Godwins Law is triggered when the Nazis are invoked in characterizing ones opponents in the present debate. It IS a bit of levity. He didnt. *YAWN* But Catholics really need to stop paying James White any attention. There can be no excuse for this. Much of the church depends on donations but that doesnt mean its exempt from hanky panky. A more important question, from my perspective, is when do you give up? It doesnt hurt that much to say, I was wrong. Or may, just maybe, given that hes against ROMAN Catholics, hes refering to Roman Catholics? I have been reading these anti-protestant posts and have been unwilling to dive into the murk, because all I am seeing are hundreds of little barbs, some less well disguised than others, directed at the person, character, intellect, education, motivation, etc., of one non-Catholic guy. I fully expect him to start into depends on your interpretation at any time now. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. It was your imagination which took off on a tangent as you erroneously presumed I was arguing something I wasnt. And Mark 11, If you hold ANYTHING against ANYONE, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins. The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not the sharing of the blood of Christ? 3) James White rejects this characterization of his criticisms nothing wrong with that. He has argued that the King James version has multiple translation errors. of Lordship Salvation, which requires a person to follow Christ (discipleship) And I dont blame them because Jimmy Akin focused upon it instead of the real issues. 500 posts, Hmmm. I mean, Im a cessationalist, and I dont believe speaking in tounges to still go on. Your first sentence is a non sequitur. As for my knowledge (or lack of it, which I freely admit) giving me standing to pronounce a critical similarity between Catholic authoritarianism and Islamic authoritarianism, it really doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out the epistemological loop you both employ to assert your authority. That fact that youve merely ASSUMED that James White is innocent in all this without even weighing any of the evidence from the debate speaks volumes of the level of fairness you actually subscribe to in the end. Everybody knows Im rightright? Registrant City:Riverside translations from Hell. Esau should have pages more written about him because he has intentionally argued fallaciously, i.e. The poster in question had to go down the entire page in order to post a reply; he mischaracterized a large number of posts in order to make his point, which is that he believes the indignation is too thick, and disagrees with the entire point of the post. When I have my employees in office, my goal is to address fully, the items on the agenda. Alpha omega tattoos can be represented in a number of ways. God is with us. Dr. The reality is, these men have no *consistent* way of disambiguating , . I recall someone saying the best example of a Catholic Apologist. They are, at the very least, in poor taste, intended to hurt. Otherwise, how is one to judge between one list of books and another? . Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!. It goes double if he/she/they all happen to be Catholic. But I will reveal the truth to you: Its too late to save James White. Whats interesting to note is that Jimmy Akin doesnt surreptitiously erase the errors hes made on this blog unlike others Ive observed in the past. Ive yet to hear James White claim that he DIDNT post those pictures. Does anyone else see the irony in the way these people are acting and the joke being made in the pictures? But 716 comments!!!??? I realize now (and I am sure I am not the first) that mysticism is truly offensive (in military meaning of the word). The pictures pertain to those calling for charity, yet give none of it to begin with. The matter gets even muddier when probing conversions to the majority of Christian denominations which reject OSAS outright or those that go a step further and introduce elements such as liturgy and sacraments. Ed, thanks for the laugh. funny how now CB is bowing out because he or she decided this was unedifying. 54 He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. My reason to believe this involves trusting the authority of the Church to determine authentic scripture. It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. Thats why they are ironic and funny. All the faith in the world is utterly meaningless without charity, as Paul writes. I have forgiven White for his insult against Catholic Christianity, but that does not mean I will say the insult was just fine and nothing to worry about. Until he does, I dont have to answer his questions. That wont work on me. It was meant to incite people, and it did. Those Jedi mind tricks dont work on me. If he did it intentionally, that would make him a liar. There have been some wonderful posts with many great insights (at least for me personally). I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. Again, there are far more effective ways to communicate that one perceives an inconsistency. Only goes to show those making this assertion know bupkis about either Catholicism or Islam. The Book of Shemaiah the Prophet[10] I have a list of books I say was divinely inspired. I think hes quite thoroughly a gentleman. He starred in popular video games, movies and tours. Oh no,there was a gem amongst the comments, to be sure; Given the comments here, the generalization measures up. I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. There is no reason to believe that an alpha omega tattoo cannot incorporate both the philosophical and religious essence of the symbols. Mike Please use Foxfier, to prevent confusion. Foxfier: Foxfire, Please post prayers for him there, keeping in mind that the thread is for prayers only. We are now praying for your conversion to the fullness of the faith. I dont think its unreasonable either. The word competence here has a technical meaning in linguistics (to paraphrase the redoubtable Wikipedia): Communicative competence is a linguistic term which refers to a learners L2 ability (in general, the ability to process a second language as a native would in the case of humor, to process a joke utterance as a natural example of a joke). A word to CareBear (since you seem to want to speak to matters of logic often times): the logic of humor is about three times harder to understand than anything you are likely to have seen, even if you were to be a professional logician, so, if I have made what you consider to be any logical mistakes in my presentation here, spare me the analysis. First tell us, what race are the Germans? 1. Beyond that, its a game. Especially when the fellow braying about substance has all the heft of helium. Perhaps Jimmy is confident that truth will out in the free exchange of ideas, whereas White wants the freedom to throw out anything he likes without any dissenting voices. of a nagging, impatient temperament Your inability and/or unwillingness to consider ideas outside of your own conjecture, When one happens upon a URL that leads direcrtly to Catholic Answers, what is one to assume? I do think you have a point. Just leave already, and stay gone, eh? Super encouraging stuff from the trip so far, including last nights presentation on the Trinity and Oneness theology. His articles are actually substantive for the most part as I noted above. [21][22][23][24], White has written multiple books critical of Roman Catholic theology, including the books; The Roman Catholic Controversy, Mary: Another Redeemer? The History of James The onus is on YOU to prove it. I have a question Matthew, if the Catholic church is salvation through Christ, why must one confess to a Catholic priest to recieve absolution? Scriptural sufficiency, as always! Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them (John 20:23). Isnt it a deception to use the url http://www.jamesrwhite.org to connect to Catholic Answers? the process of doing that is deemed not relevant You. In fact, as I type this out Im scared to death Im not being as polite as I can be, that Im not letting the Holy Spirit use me here: there is something drastically wrong in the fact that some persons do not believe this is wrong. I apologize if I did. Additionally, in the Bible, Jesus Christ refers to himself as the alpha and the omega, to signify His eternal nature, as He is the beginning and the end. The priest sits there, stares at the floor for a second, thinks, and after a long pause, finally speaks. Jeremiah, Im rolling laughing right now at the ignoring of the points raised and the new points being purported like the earlier ones arent even there or assuming they are defacto wrong. CareBear, Isnt this the kind of answers that Roman Catholic apologists hate? Could he have done it more effectively? Its not squabbling. As his brothers in Christ, we have a higher calling than Cain. You have no basis for assuming that someone here or at Catholic Answers is responsible for registering that domain and pointing it at catholic.com, but its implied by your comment. You cant expect them to act like automatons because they do have a mind of their own. I didnt really get his analogy, carebear. 1) Believe in secret, private revelation. Way towhat did yall do anyway? Question: if the Bible is 100% Gods Word (as I believe as well), why do we talk about Paul, Peter, Matthew, etc. Someone ought to send this to Dave Armstrong. Just in case Marys comment was not clear enough. Thank you for your contribution. The minimum requirement is mutual respect. What in the world does that have to do with anything, other than you assume Divine insufficiency? However, the spirit behind what such a peson has said is not something I should ever reject, for it is the spirit of obedience to Christ and of a true love of neighbor. I might agree with some points he makes, but theyre overwhelmed by the mudslinging. Declare it as being such a malicious act of deception, condemning those responsible for the act. There is no such correlation between the two, as anyone with the faintest grip on history can say. Youll get that casuistry degree yet. Scholarly conduct? Tech Email:whois-protected2@mapname.com The Calvinist Club, Sola Scriptura, Purgatory, Purgatory: 1 Corinthians 3 and Tim Staples, Art Sippo on 1 Corinthians 3 and Purgatory, Called to Cyprian Responding to Anders Historical Error, The Audio for the Marian Dogmas Debate has been Posted, Top Ten Reasons NOT to Join the Roman Catholic Church. But, in the first place, not all inspired writers have been prophets or workers of miracles; in the second place, in order that prophecies or miracles may serve as proof of inspiration, it must be clear that the miracles were performed, and the prophecies were uttered, to establish the fact in question; in the third place, if this condition be verified, the testimony for inspiration is no longer merely human, but it has become Divine. Its useless to try to reason with anyone who could defend those photos. The harted you guys show toward White actually proves the very point he wanted to make in posting those pictures. GOD knows who did it, but one thing can be certain, NO PROTESTANT would go through such extremes let alone steer folks to Catholic Answers. Do they not apply, or are you choosing to ignore them in order to post another gotcha! by claiming that were not responding? A coloured floral tattoo like this one may just be what you need to add vibrance to your skin. Tech City:Riverside Try explaining it in your own words so that a simpleton like me can understand. Christ said: As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it remain on the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in me. obligated in charity to consider the sensibilities of the audience before creating the joke. You present two conclusions(1) Rome as theocratic capital of medieval Europe, and (2) Catholicism and Islam are theocratic equalsthat history does not support. Jimmy asked for a discussion of the pictures and I, for one, have done so, however cursory. I ask this only because I believe you are a Christian, a loved and precious child of Christ, washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb. because it is Gods revelation and His authority and he does not share or mediate that authority ever. The Bible nowhere records that the gift of divine revelation would be lost. Its out to confuse you! 2023 Alpha and Omega Ministries. A humor killer is an attempt at humor that defeats itself by using contextual elements that are horrific or defeats the ability of an audience to access certain areas of mental space safely. An apology. Christ gave them all power and authority, saying, He who hears you hears me: he who rejects you rejects me.(Luke 10:16) and Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven (Matt. Assertion 2) Those who take offense to that assumption are like Islamist terror supporting mobs. Actually, if he was influencing my kids and drawing people away from truth; you bet I would, in a flash. By the by, http://www.jameswhite.org for the CA website url? I accept that the photos and captions were jokes. Is the man who deceives his neighbor, and then says, I was only joking.'. Luke 10:25- By placing the beginning paragraph or two of the lead article of their monthly magazine, This Rock, on the very cover of the work, they draw your attention into reading the rest of the article. This is DISHONEST folks! Isnt that a littleobsessive? Call me a liar, youd be right, any Christian would confess such a thing. The successors of the Apostles, the Bishops of the True Church, is found in the Catholic Church, as even countless writings of the early christian church affirms! Rather he is saying that since those pictures are inherently disrespectful reasonable debate ceased to exist. If you have prior experience with getting a tattoo and looking to commit to an elaborate sleeve tattoo design incorporating the symbols for alpha and omega, then check this one out! Thus I wanted to lay out some of my thoughts briefly. I hope Dr. White learns that one take-home message. Maybe well get a little agreement in there as well from time to time. Feb 23, 2021. Else Ill stop bothering to respond with actual information and just point you to documents of the Early Fathers, the Catechism, and books by various Catholic Apologists. The person who Afterall, how do you know if hes repented or not? Here are some : I snatched it up, opened it, and read in silence the chapter on which my eyes first fell. why do they not seriously deal with the issues that are presented by Protestant apologists.Case in point please. No, I didnt. Esau, evangelists whom I wont name, but will Also, Im not entirely convinced you know what a category error is. The last refuge of the scoundrel who offends is hey, it was just a joke. Paul, By the by, http://www.jameswhite.org for the CA website url? I only have a single logic class, and I know that.) Our younger followers may have even seen him as a fighter in MTVs The Final Fu. The Book of Jehu[14] The argument from unity accomplishes nothing because it doesnt exist. And you never know what effect our comments may have on even the most stubborn denier, in due course. If so, then please provide a specific example. Then we listened to some stuff from FBC Orlando, then on to Andy Stanley and homosexuals serving and worshipping in the Church. Nor do I need to have read everything hes said about a single topic in order to discuss portions of that topic. I surmised that much. At which point, my Ironymeter explodes. in Judaism the same type of traditions exist and they are known as Talmud (Oral Torah). Tell me Esau, how often do you visit webpages and question whether or not the given url has been registered to that website, given that the url leads directly to it? 1. The Revelation of Ezra Whether or not we have a responsibility to forgive someone who has not repented, I think we should still forgive them in the sense of wishing them well and seeking no revenge. He makes his usual unfair swipes at his opponents credibility and intelligence. How do you control Him, contain Him, market Him? God uses the foolish to confound the wise. Golly, Mary, we must be melodramatic for objecting to being equated with folks who murder victims of rape, because we object to a fellow assuming someone is a liar! The Final Act was just amazing! ITS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH/CATHOLIC ANSWERS/JIMMY AKIN RESPONSIBLE FOR IT ALL ALONG!!! If you look any further, youll be missing our point. Esau is the one with the consiracy theories. Anti-Catholicism rots the mind. Where does it say in the Bible that the Canon of the Bible (which books belong in the Bible and which dont) has been divinely revealed? Do you have questions about Catholicism that you want to ask Jimmy? The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 2a. Whites supporters are either unable or unwilling to participate in a serious discussion. Tech Street2: I have to admit that I was reminded by the saying that if you have to explain the humor, it wasnt funny. White also ignores that God has always worked incarnationally, (the scripture recounts that) that Scripture mediates the authority through the Church and her overseers (bishops). For all thats worth. Its unworthy of Christian discipleship. Sandy: You believe what it says to you, and the Protestants believe what it says to them. Its obvious on the face of it. Glorious Lord. 2. Wow, big discovery. Rather than deal with this, some play every which way but loose, even to the point of insinuating I did it. Contact. It seems only fair, then, that just as you would like people to listen to you for your expertise in apologetics, so you owe it to me to listen to my expert, although necessarily brief, evaluation of your blog pictures which is what Jimmy asked to be the topic under I mean, what do you tell people who stumble onto the site looking for theological answers who have never heard of James White? The LXX provides a good translation here. Not always edifying, but it sure had its moments. I apologize, especially to Dr. White and to CareBear, for the heavy-handedness of my post above. 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